Chapter 4, Page 3

Now you’re making him mad!

First, a new Shingworks tutorial about worldbuilding went up for $5 Patrons yesterday! The supplement worksheet goes up tonight for the advanced tiers~ Additionally, the behind-the-scenes art/ comments for this page are up now, with a labelled breakdown of the layers I use for coloring pages like these.

I’m also at a point where I’m equally invested in the storylines of both comics; Patrons of any level can vote here if they have an opinion on whether the 3rd update this week should be a Meek page or a Mare page.

Last, I’d missed these initially but there was a nice little review by Dragonhide late last year, followed by a mention on the ConSequential podcast at the 17mins point.. honestly I put my head down on my desk and laughed (if you don’t care to listen, it’s basically the reviewer hesitatingly trying to explain the plot comic without spoiling anything, and settling on”it gets really weird”). I really appreciate anyone who shares this comic with their pals, especially given the weirdness of the plot.

79 Comments

  • charlesw81

    Very smart last question.

    Test what the real LEVi should AND shouldn’t know.

    Bex comes across as being in full defensive mode here. Almost militarily defensive mode

    • androshalforc

      now for the fun test see if Bex is just dreaming
      find something that Levi should know that Bex doesent know and prove that its valid information

      • evileeyore

        Still wouldn’t prove this isn’t some elaborate mental simulation or that she isn’t hallucinating.

      • charlesw81

        Hmmm. Seems complicated but it could be as easy as two objects, alike except in colour, pulled without looking from a container and then shown from each hand to Levi but not Bex, followed by asking him which hand has which colour.

  • Lo

    I love LEVi too much.
    (that’s his right leg isn’t it?)

    • shingworks

      I swear to god haha… I have a really big problem telling left and right apart for some reason. I actually double checked this too! Which means I corrected it to be incorrect lol. WILL FIX

      • Pylgrim

        I’m exactly the same! I call it my “tiny dyslexia”. It is so bad that at some point during my childhood, I subconsciously came up with the crutch to call my hands “left” and “right” correspondingly and whenever I need to quickly know where is left and right, a glance at my hands will tell me what’s what.

        Unfortunately, that made extra challenging to learn to drive. The instructor couldn’t understand why whenever he told me to turn left or right I couldn’t do it without taking my eyes off the road.

        • shingworks

          lol, I feel this so much. I can’t follow spoken navigation… when I go places I have to memorize a map so I have an aerial view of it in mind before driving, because verbal directions lag at least 10 seconds for some reason? Making an “L” with my left hand used to help, but in the moment of “turn left here” I forget what L looks like. I wonder why that is… part of me wants to tattoo “Right” on the back of my right hand so I never have this problem again.

          • kilobyte

            OH wow. I also have this problem, almost exactly the same way you described it! and thinking about a dominant hand doesn’t help me either, because I write with my right hand but do a lot of other things (eat, brush teeth etc) with my left hand.

          • Whachamacallit

            I totally get what you mean. I actually find directions like “Go west” easier since I have a lot of landmarks to utilize for orientation. That’s why I’m extremely aggressive towards having a good helmsman if I’m driving to places unknown.

          • David

            My ex girlfriend had that problem. I learned not to trust the turns when she gave me written directions to a place.

          • DukeBG

            I know at least one other person with this kind of problem too, and she’s also an artist, huh.

          • DukeBG

            BTW, the tattoo can say “That’s right!” it will be a good pun and useful in social situations.

          • RedDwarfIV

            Try using tape to write the words ‘left’ and ‘right’ on the windscreen. Then you can still be looking at the road while you check which direction to go.

          • shingworks

            :O that’s not a bad idea

          • RedDwarfIV

            Good luck with it. I had the idea because when I was learning to drive, my instructor put a bean bag near the centre of where the dashboard meets the windscreen. He told me to use that as a guide for how far the car should be from the curb. If the bean bag was in front of the curb, the car was in the correct position.

            So I thought of a similar visual aid for you.

          • msouth

            A friend of mine and I used to say “blinker bar up” and “blinker bar down”. The the little arrow will light up and tell you which way to go, but you don’t even need that because the direction your hand is moving when you push on the blinker is the same direction your steering wheel needs to go.

          • J.A Kooistra

            When your hands are on the steering wheel, point index finger on your left hand up and loosen your thumb. It will make an L. At some point you don’t have to glance anymore, you can just point and remember. That’s how it worked for me, anyway.

          • JJ

            I just realised the left/right problem probably feels the same as horizontal/vertical does to me. Fortunately, there are no flying cars yet.

          • evileeyore

            “I have a really big problem telling left and right apart for some reason.”

            I have the same problem. Left and right, east-west-north-south, etc. I call it “navigationally impaired”.

          • Pylgrim

            ITT: People who are slightly impaired find out that they are not alone in the world!

        • Lo

          This happens to me a lot. Even after pondering for a while if I was right that the comic had the wrong leg, I phrased it as a question because I wasn’t 100% sure. I always thought it was because I’m left-handed, though. Every lefty I know has this problem for some reason lol

        • charlesw81

          Just go port or starboard instead ;)

          • SEBLEB

            Ha ha.
            A friend of mine doesn’t say left, he says “the other right”

          • Ratatosk

            Which reminds me of a story from a merchant ship.
            The navigational officer saw the captain pull out a drawer many times when he visited the bridge. After a while the mate went to check what was in the drawer. He found a paper with the following:
            Starboard – Right
            Port – Left

        • Jazhara7

          I know someone that, when practising for their driving license, they would always drive left when the teacher said right, and vice versa. The teacher was close to tears, until he found out she was a dentists helper. A dentists helper always has to switch the directions in their head if a dentist says “remove the saliva from the right of the mouth” or “move the mirror left”, because they will likely be saying it from their perspective.

          This habit stuck, so when you say right to her, she will first think of what we would consider left.

          Also, I am always surprised that if I tell someone they have something stuck to their cheek, or similar, and indicate the spot on my own face, they will react like they were looking in a mirror – when I touch my right cheek, they would touch their left cheek. It doesn’t make sense to me, after all I am not a mirror.

        • hkmaly

          I’m not wearing watches for years, but I can still feel the place I used to wear them on when I’m thinking about which arm is left. I guess if I never wore watches, I would have more problems guessing that :-)

      • Fawnet

        Man, you too? I can’t tell my right from my left to save my life. When I give directions to someone driving, I have to position my hands like each one is holding an imaginary pencil. Then, before we get to a corner where I should tell them to turn, I have to think really quickly: “OK, which hand knows how to write in cursive? If yes, it’s Right. If not, it’s Left!” I’ve also been known to panic slightly and have to point. “Um, turn that way!”

      • skellagirl

        I lowkey have this problem, as well. Great sense of direction, but when I’m writing stories it’s things like a character will grab something with their right hand and then next thing ya know, it’s suddenly in their left with no mention of having switched.

        As far as the comic goes, I kind of thought it was a reference to that old, “no, your OTHER right!” joke, or something like “no, MY right!”

        • skellagirl

          WAIT WAIT… I just realized that you already fixed this and I’m commenting on my own silliness. Nvm, I’m tired and stressed :,,,)

          U go, Der-Shing, u go

      • Fridge_Logik

        I read it as either Bex being confused: fair she’s been through a lot. Or that she then wanted to see the other leg raised too. as in “now your other leg!”

        • shingworks

          Haha, yeah that’s my bad for not checking accurately. It’s supposed to be assessing if Thrip responds to verbal commands/ that she’s not hallucinating their ability to communicate.

          • Byzantine

            It could also simply be the difference between his right and her right. She never specified which she meant.

      • Confusedcious

        I used to pick up imaginary pens to work it out all the time. Now I can do that without moving to pick it up…

  • Daniel

    I love it, two intelligent characters asking questions normal people would ask and reacting as expected. It’s really refreshing given how little Mike cared :) at first anyways. It’s funny how even though Mike is out of the picture, his character is still being expanded on a little bit.

  • pretty flacko

    Wait, the crab was Levi all this time? :S

    • Octavarium

      Yes, sir! Where have you been all this time? =)

    • Octavarium

      Also, it’s not crab: it’s Thrip, mind you.

  • Darcy

    “What are the names of the two scientists worked with at Devotion?” Should there be a “you” in there somewhere?

    Something! I love a smart-ass crustacean…

    • shingworks

      Fixed right as you commented, haha :]

      • Darcy

        Ah sorry

    • Linebyline

      Was that snark, or just not knowing how literally to take her and playing it safe?

      • Darcy

        Could be either or both and therein lies the beauty.

      • David

        I think Levi picked up some of Mike’s behaviors, after months of being exposed to his personality.

        • AGV

          More contagious than Mars’ adaptive machines

          • Linebyline

            Sarcasm is known to thrive in almost any environment. It’s like a psychological tardigrade.

  • chiz

    uGH so cute >:|

  • Glavos

    Haha LEVi is the best. This page is soo good :3

  • LeVi’s stuttering :o

  • Fawnet

    Progress, rational behavior! Yeah! I can’t tell you how relieved I am for both of them.

  • David

    I still think there’s a decent chance she will eat him anyway

  • Don’t squish Crabfriend! D:

  • Quill

    I like how thrip/levi doesn’t talk in a exactly robotic way, stuttering and talking casually as a ‘human’ would, I donno if that’s part of the AI or if it’s a result of them having a flesh brain instead of a robotic ‘brain’ but it’s a fun little touch.

  • DukeBG

    Don’t care if it’s a coincidence, but panel 4 is a reference to Terminator 2: Judgement Day, when John asks T-800 to stand on one leg.

  • Sillydraco

    Levi-thrip has some sass, I like it c:

  • AGV

    I know that LEVI was an AI, but I wonder if part of it’s current personality is due to it’s organic state?

    • Bradford

      I was wondering that as well. Was “Something” a joke? I imagine a robot saying “I don’t know” instead of “H-How should I know??”

      • shingworks

        That’s what happens when your robot hangs around bad influences too long

        • shingworks

          (turns into a crab and has bad manners)

  • band

    i wanna know what that fancy net is made of.

    • AGV

      Probably some poor lifeform’s bodypart

  • RedDwarfIV

    Finally, I discover what LEVi stands for!

    • Octavarium

      Well, there’s always that neat Glossary up there… =)

  • msouth

    For all you people that posted about left and right giving you problems, I have to wonder if it’s because your brain is better at spatial perception and *it* knows that these “left” and “right” designations are arbitrary. Spin around 180 degrees and what was left is now right. It’s a theory, anyway.

    • shingworks

      That’s my theory too, left and right seem so arbitrary from my bilaterally symmetrical perspective, haha XD I bet if I chopped off a fingertip on one hand or something it would make it a lot easier to remember.

    • evileeyore

      Well… I do have excellent 3-dimensional mapping skills, I just lose which is r/l, n/s/e/w/, etc.

  • Lewis

    Can Bex understand Thrip because she’s… an ENTOMOLOGIST??

    • AGV

      But there’s no Ents in here…

  • Rebecca Turner

    I love this comic but I sure have read more weird than this lol. I’d call this more sci-fi mars exploration? If I had my way I’d love an update to this one before the meek. I read both but this one so far is my favorite. Funny because I found the meek first then it wasn’t updated for so Long I put it in my hiatus folder but was happy to see it back again. I do really love this one and I love your art. I’m an artist also. I was an fine artist and an illustrator, then went on to get design degree and ended up doing magazine design for 10 years and very little besides a book or magazine illustration here and there. Couldn’t take it anymore so am back at my art but sculpting full time now lol. If I’d been younger I might have tried this because I love comics! Anyways keep up the great work.

  • Jonas

    This comic is so good, this page is perfect. I’m impressed every time.

  • TorgueRND

    “What is capital of Vermont?”
    “Montpelier!”
    “The atomic weight of strontium?”
    “You’re just screwing with me, aren’t you?”

  • A.R.

    Panel#2 has the most adorable look I’ve ever seen on anything. I was not aware crustaceans were allowed to look this cute!

    Also– good, they’re finally talking! I was worried for thripLEVI. Now maybe we can get all the protagonists together without anyone else being eaten and their corpses made into suplies. :|

  • Jin G. Braid.

    …Gingerbread?

    • Malla Finesilver

      OH MY GOD yes lol :-D FRigging best thing ever, hahaha!!

      Hey, hey what do you call a red-haired baker?

  • Aw – thanks. Glad the podcast made you laugh. It was super hard explaining this without giving too much away, and I’m not sure I did a great job.

    Loving the comic though. I’ve been recommending it to whoever will listen.

    Roger (from Consequential)

  • Sane

    So, as happens with a lot of webcomics. You find it after it’s begun, track back to the beginning and trawl through the archives to catch up. I started reading MI today and now I’m up to date :|

    That’s a day of my life I won’t be getting back and if I did, I’d spend it sat at my laptop reading this all over again!

    I’m loving your work; the themes you explore and the way you explore them in such a believable and honest way (despite MI quite literally being on another planet, in the future, with Thighfriend, Threvi and… Kalla…) All done so carefully and so well thought out. I did not expect a webcomic to resonate quite so much. So, thank you!

    Gahhh.. I haven’t even mentioned how beautiful some of the art is but I’m gonna stop myself before I write a real text wall here.

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