Chapter 5, Page 12

The gang’s all here! I think for the first time in the comic so far.

First, welcome new readers who found me through a snarky tweet that got some traction over the weekend. To be fair there is often fucked up stuff in this comic, but it’s usually crab related.

The 2018 Hugo Award Nominations are open! My info can be located below. I’ve never considered asking for a nomination before because I didn’t really know how it works (and am still not 100% sure I’m doing it correctly), but I hope fellow sci-fi fans recognize the love I have for the genre and the art of graphic storytelling, and see the effort I put into my work. I’m very grateful to have the opportunity to share this odd story with you for free, over the internet, in creative real-time… it’s really been a dream come true, and whether or not the non-indie comics world ever hears about this story, I really appreciate that you’ve been here with me :]

One last thing before I forget: check out this incredible fanart of Mike by @hanbydesign! Blew me out of the water (ha)

See you with the next page soon! and as usual, thanks for reading

The 2018 Hugo Award Nominations are open! If you enjoyed my work in the previous year, I would be extremely grateful if you’d consider nominating “Mare Internum: Chapter 4” in the Best Graphic Story category (due to the voting process, only complete segments- such as a chapter- of a work are eligible for nomination. Next year the complete work will be eligible).

Thank you for putting up with my nervous forays into legitimacy, and of course for considering me~


  • kim

    Levi’s excited “thrip!” My heart. Reunited and it feels so good~

    Also, I absolutely found this comic through your snarky tweet and I’ve spent the last two days furiously reading through this. I’m usually not one for webcomics (or comics in general), sci-fi or mysterious fungi crowns permanently affixed to skulls, but this has completely captured me. You have made all the characters so empathetic in a way that I’m rooting for all of them. It’s masterful art, storytelling, character building and atmosphere. I’m in awe of your work as an artist, both in medium and story telling.

    I’ve read through a few of the comments (mostly not because I was too excited to get to the next page) but the devotion (ha!) with which people have given this world you’ve built is amazing. And your interaction with everyone is so lovely to see. I’ve always been in awe of creators who give this kind of level of work to people, for free; and it makes me happy that people are giving you so much love in return in terms of comments, support, queries and theories and their own interpretations.

    Your characters may be my favourite part–how well rounded, realized and real they are. Mike and his struggle, his back and forth on survival and giving in, his deadpan humour and reluctant compassion, how the trauma of his childhood trickles down. I could be wrong in this interpretation, but I love the parallels between Kalla’s own resignation with her part of the world and Mike’s spiral and how he clawed his way back up; how Mare Internum acts as this allegory or metaphor for depression–how the characters are caught between despondency, thinking they will never get out, and then they find a surge of courage to try again. Might not have been your intention but I’m struggling with my own depression and anxiety and it’s been strangely inspiring? How easy it is to just give in to what is laid before us but, in big and small ways, how they continue to push back. I know you said before this is singular story about a specific person and not a full display of all the different ways a person can deal with their trauma and mental illness, but it’s beautifully universal, too, I think. That lots of your readers I’m sure have found themselves in a similar situation–whether it’s depression or anxiety or hopelessness or fear–and it’s treated in a way that doesn’t glorify or romanticize it, but neither does it back down from the harsh reality. But there is something like an undercurrent of hope running through it, giving the characters that extra little nudge to take another step.

    As we learn more about Mike, his distrust and paranoia and harsh reactions to Bex in the beginning make more sense; I can see how it would be hard to trust anyone when he feels like every person who has got close to him has used him in some way. The loss of Kalla is so much harder in hindsight because of that. Bless you for bringing her back!

    Bex and her strong will, her steadfast determination, her refusal to let people see her be weak, the times when she can’t hold it in any longer. I know a lot of people have commented on her character, negative and not, and I just want to let you know I absolutely adore her. You’ve taken what could have been a truly abrasive character and have given her depth, courage, truth, hardship and this soft, compassionate core; she is not some ruthless, conniving monster, but someone who struggles just as much as anyone, living with her successes and failures. Her story about choosing between her family and her life–gosh, I feel that so hard. As a mom myself, the moment when she confessed to her husband, “Where do I go?” outside the nursery store. Dude, DUDE. It’s a thought that runs through my mind at least once a day–where do I go from here? Thank you for writing that story honestly and not making her a villain or a martyr, just a real person struggling with a sense of self and fumbling along the way. For me, I believe she wants to get back to her kids, that she was telling the truth to the processor. But only time will tell and whatever may come, I will root for her.

    Kalla and all her wisdom, her sensibility and unintentional humour (though I think she knows she’s got some kind of wit about her). Levi! Thrip! Threvi?! Honest and inquisitive and precious. He is so like a child, it’s true, in all the ways that he is forthcoming and endlessly asking questions (so. many. questions.) and just bubbly. It’s a marvelous cast a characters, a bunch of misfits, and yet they are harmonious together, even with their conflicts and disagreements. It’s not easy but when is it ever? Especially struggling to survive in some strange cavernous alien world where apparently some globby omniscient overseer spies on you through water. Very yikes.

    Thank you for creating multi-life cycle reincarnations and glowy water that brought Kalla back to us again or else I would have been utterly bereft. Thanks for giving Mike a constant buddy in Thighfriend–the real MVP. Thanks for creating a sci-fi world that’s accessible to people like me, who say “I don’t really like sci-fi” (maybe it’s time to admit that I probably do). If I haven’t understood a concept, I’ve usually found an answer in the comments from you (or the glossary) or some savvy reader who knows so much more. Thank you for your dedication and effort and sharing your world, your art and your story with us. It always takes courage, no matter what stage you’re at in pursuing your dreams. You’ve created something wonderful that has resonated with so many people. You’ve spurred discussions and created little followings and made us cheer and cry and sigh in relief. I always love finding something like that, that makes you need to come back to see how it all ends, not just because you’re curious but because you want to see what will happen to the characters next, if they will overcome and succeed and find their way back home, wherever it may be. Because you care for them, as a reader, and are invested in a way that’s entirely emotional.

    Anyway, apologies for the rambling mess and any mistakes in this but I just needed to dump out all my excitement and love for this in one go. I am eagerly awaiting the next chapter!

    • AGV

      This is so perfect in so many levels

    • Solanuma

      Thank you for sharing your experience. It’s always nice to see fresh faces and perspectives here

    • shingworks

      I had to wait a while to respond, haha, your comment kinda made me tear up a bit. Just thank you very much for all your thoughts and perceptions, a lot of my work I have to make because I feel like I’m not able to articulate myself, or get my point across in any other ways, and it’s very affirming to know that someone understands where I’m coming from and what I’m trying to do. Thank you so much for giving my work a try, and I’m glad that you like it!

      Sci-fi is a huge genre that has been up until recently dominated by certain types of writers, and I find it is a lot easier nowadays to connect with work that speaks to me thanks to the diversity of people who are sharing their thoughts on the internet. Definitely check out my links section, if you’d like, for more cool comics by other indie creators.

    • Pylgrim

      I have to say I’m impressed that you picked up all the lingo and nicknames from the comments as well!

    • Retterhardt

      THIS! t h i s . THIS!!!

      I’m usually sort of a lurker and don’t comment much, but I agree so much with kim here. This comic is such a moving story with such character depth. I have been following since the beginning (since the concept sketches on tumblr stage!) and absolutely love how the story has developed and made me both feel and think. As the comic begins to draw to a close, I just want to express my appreciation. Thank you, Der-shing!

  • Bottas Heimfe

    what are those bat things flying into Micheal and Kalla’s eyes?

    • BigDogLittleCat

      Annoying. They are annoying.

    • Johnald

      Annoying, blue winged creatures swarming people in a cave? It’s gotta be Zubats, right?

      • David

        No, they are Pafbats.

    • Ceceoh

      Judging by everyone’s reaction, I think they’re called Whatevers.

    • Pylgrim

      I propose Swallowbats!

    • widdershins

      REPEL wore off!

  • Tux


  • Spottedspeck

    Aaaw, look at how Mike’s holding Levi in the last panel…!

  • CharlesW81

    I hold this mild fear that they have repeated these same actions over and over again and the processor has simply recreated their bodies and put them back where they started each time so that many years have passed since Mike and Bex actually fell in here.

    Almost certainly unfounded.

    • GardensTale

      “That’s one hell of a bird”

  • David

    I loved Rendezvous with Rama, as well as its sequel. The third book got too political for me, and I never read the fourth.

    I think what I was most attracted to was the discovery and exploration of something completely new to human experience.

  • Jonas


  • Bethany Persons

    Help me out, when did Michael learn that Thrip is Levi? Or can he understand him now? That would also be a change.

    • Alex

      Probably learned from the Processor. I wonder why he didn’t try to go back to Kalla after meeting Processor? Probably was waiting for Bex to come?

      • shingworks

        Yeah, exactly. When he was talking to Bex it was clear he knew about Kalla and other things, presumably from the Processor. He also knew Bex was coming and since she was there, was probably just going to tie up that loose end before catching up with his REAL FRIENDS

        • BigDogLittleCat

          Wow, I totally did not get from that that Mike knew Kalla had been rebooted. After all, he saw that Bex had cut off Kalla’s head [*shudder*], so he didn’t need the processor to tell him that.

          • shingworks

            Hm, I can see that… I thought the “killing everything you touch” might imply he knew about the rest of what she’d been up to, but I can see how it might be read as just that one scene. I’ll add that to my list of things to touch up.

          • evileeyore

            Honestly shing, I’d leave it? It’s a bit ambiguous, but then that’s how real communication works. i liked that it hinted that Micheal /knew/ what Bex had done, without actually revealing that he really did know what Bex had done.

  • are they… purposely aiming for the eyes ?

  • weirderthanweird

    I like how Michael essentially has a crown. He is King of the fungi!

    • berry

      you know that michael… he’s a real fun guy

    • James


  • Fuzy

    I love the pafbats and the noise they make.

  • James

    If… *if* there were loads of concious Martian people living in the Undersea, I would be willing to concede that The Processor has an actual point about defending this place…
    If however, only Kalla, Levi, Mike, and Bex are actual concious people and everything else is a Processor-drone, then The Processor is totally out of order…
    But which is it? – we have seen one other talking “thing”… the creature that made contact with Bex at the cost of it’s existance, which it seemed surprisingly OK with, like you would expect of a drone… but was it just a well integrated Martian that was cool with losing a life that was fairly recently backed up?

    • JJ

      Interestingly, you included Levi among the person-people ;-)

      • James

        If he didn’t count before his reincarnation, (which he may or may not have done… it depends on how advanced AI normally is in the Internum-verse) it has been strongly implied that he is much more than a survey-bot with a convincing personality emulator now that he has been “upgraded”.
        Pinnochio or Tin-Man, choose your AI metaphor

  • JJ

    Mike in that last panel is surrealist.

  • PositronicGirl

    On the one hand: yay all the characters are together now. On the other hand: this means something bad is gonna happen.

    • awhorl

      Gonna. Yet another bad thing on top of the pafbats, you mean.

      • PositronicGirl

        Joke while you still can, Der-Shing is going to break our hearts!! There’s a critical mass of beloved characters here.

        • awhorl

          Joke is not quite the right word . . . whatever happens next, and after that, the ending is gonna leave me, at least, heart altered . . . broken and put together differently? That’s why Der-Shing is up there with the greats.

  • HowlerMonkey

    who remembers the sudden reunion scene in “Rocky Horror” where they do the roll call?
    Mike? Bex? Kalla? Threvi? Brad? Janet? Rocky? (UGH!)

  • Thatbirdguy

    I never thought about this before, but it’s got to be pretty awkward for mike to walk with thighfriend out like that

    • shingworks

      Yeah, that’s why when it’s out he’s usually got one arm holding it up (but in a pinch thighfriend retracts as much as it can)

  • Ellie

    I love all of Kalla’s different hairdos. She seems to change it up pretty much every time she’s offscreen. She is the undying last of her kind trapped in a bunker by sentient rain and she is READY FOR HER CLOSE-UP.

  • Ember

    YESSSSSSS!!! This has me so hyped! GET ‘EM KALLA!!

  • Becky

    Oh wow, I wondered why I wasn’t seeing any new pages! I wasn’t getting the emails for some reason until today so I missed this and the next page or two? Well, thats ok I get to read more than one at a time then! its weird I didn’t get an email though. hmmm, off to read!

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